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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.waranvil.com/world-of-warcraft-class-discussion/wrath-heroic-tank-stats-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-603</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 22:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome guide. I was a tad bit worried that I wasn&#039;t geared enough. I am sitting around around 21k unbuffed hp, 529 def, and 21600 arm. Thanks for the tips. :) 

Tanks ftw! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome guide. I was a tad bit worried that I wasn&#8217;t geared enough. I am sitting around around 21k unbuffed hp, 529 def, and 21600 arm. Thanks for the tips. :) </p>
<p>Tanks ftw! :D</p>
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		<title>By: Grim</title>
		<link>http://www.waranvil.com/world-of-warcraft-class-discussion/wrath-heroic-tank-stats-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-598</link>
		<dc:creator>Grim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 09:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey Fozz, 

Honestly, fuck the idiots in the random dungeons.  I used to suffer from this bigtime, in fact I stopped playing the game mainly due to this.  

Aggro control is a group based pursuit, its not just down to the tank.  I don&#039;t care who the tank is, if a dps decided to unload on a mob which is not the main focus of the tank, there&#039;s going to be aggro loss.

What you have to do it totally ignore them.  Remember your in the dungeon to get loot, stuff them if they want to bitch and moan that&#039;s fine.  I can guarantee they will soon stop pulling aggro after a few deaths ;)

By all means they can drop group and face another 30+ mins waiting for a tank!

Us tanks hold all the cards in random dungeons!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Fozz, </p>
<p>Honestly, fuck the idiots in the random dungeons.  I used to suffer from this bigtime, in fact I stopped playing the game mainly due to this.  </p>
<p>Aggro control is a group based pursuit, its not just down to the tank.  I don&#8217;t care who the tank is, if a dps decided to unload on a mob which is not the main focus of the tank, there&#8217;s going to be aggro loss.</p>
<p>What you have to do it totally ignore them.  Remember your in the dungeon to get loot, stuff them if they want to bitch and moan that&#8217;s fine.  I can guarantee they will soon stop pulling aggro after a few deaths ;)</p>
<p>By all means they can drop group and face another 30+ mins waiting for a tank!</p>
<p>Us tanks hold all the cards in random dungeons!</p>
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		<title>By: Fozz</title>
		<link>http://www.waranvil.com/world-of-warcraft-class-discussion/wrath-heroic-tank-stats-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-597</link>
		<dc:creator>Fozz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 06:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only problem I find with a new tank and heroics is that EVERYONE seems spoiled by god-tier tanks in the LFG system that they just dps any target they want wantonly and expect you to be able to hold it.

I&#039;m sitting on 27k UNBUFFED HP, 542 Def, all my gear is enchanted/gemmed basically maxed out to about as good as pre-heroic/T9 gear is going to get and I STILL get complaints because of druids spamming starfall when I pulled 5 mobs, blizzard loving mages without aggro reduction talents, etc. Noone dies when I tank boss fights, just on large trash groups. They die because they pull all but the main target off me and complain &quot;oh stpd nab gtfo of heroics&quot;. Please. Look at the fucking gear disparity with you in your t10 and me in iLvL 200 ToC purps. Shut. Up. Taunt has a cooldown. Watch your aggro or die. 

That&#039;s the biggest wall facing new tanks. Spoiled dungeon runners expecting 5 min heroic runs every time. Hopefully some of them read this and get a clue.

/vent

Also good article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only problem I find with a new tank and heroics is that EVERYONE seems spoiled by god-tier tanks in the LFG system that they just dps any target they want wantonly and expect you to be able to hold it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sitting on 27k UNBUFFED HP, 542 Def, all my gear is enchanted/gemmed basically maxed out to about as good as pre-heroic/T9 gear is going to get and I STILL get complaints because of druids spamming starfall when I pulled 5 mobs, blizzard loving mages without aggro reduction talents, etc. Noone dies when I tank boss fights, just on large trash groups. They die because they pull all but the main target off me and complain &#8220;oh stpd nab gtfo of heroics&#8221;. Please. Look at the fucking gear disparity with you in your t10 and me in iLvL 200 ToC purps. Shut. Up. Taunt has a cooldown. Watch your aggro or die. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the biggest wall facing new tanks. Spoiled dungeon runners expecting 5 min heroic runs every time. Hopefully some of them read this and get a clue.</p>
<p>/vent</p>
<p>Also good article.</p>
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		<title>By: Grim</title>
		<link>http://www.waranvil.com/world-of-warcraft-class-discussion/wrath-heroic-tank-stats-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-461</link>
		<dc:creator>Grim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 12:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those stats are more than good enough to tank heroics Dairy!

Glad you found this guide to be of use :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those stats are more than good enough to tank heroics Dairy!</p>
<p>Glad you found this guide to be of use :)</p>
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		<title>By: Dairyaire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dairyaire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 12:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hit 80 2 days agoa and had emough badges to buy some T9 gear so I was at 535 def with 27 HP self buffed. I immedatily jumped into heroics and have tanke them all w/ the exception of H HOR ( hasn;t popped) with no problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hit 80 2 days agoa and had emough badges to buy some T9 gear so I was at 535 def with 27 HP self buffed. I immedatily jumped into heroics and have tanke them all w/ the exception of H HOR ( hasn;t popped) with no problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Grim</title>
		<link>http://www.waranvil.com/world-of-warcraft-class-discussion/wrath-heroic-tank-stats-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-425</link>
		<dc:creator>Grim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 16:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definatly Warmachine.

You&#039;ll be able to run them all apart from the new ICC ones, they are somewhat harder.  You&#039;d need more hp to tackle them.  Watch out for the comments off the other plays if your using the lfg tool, they will throw all kinds of abuse at your for the low hp.  Just ignore the idiots, you have to start somewhere!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definatly Warmachine.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll be able to run them all apart from the new ICC ones, they are somewhat harder.  You&#8217;d need more hp to tackle them.  Watch out for the comments off the other plays if your using the lfg tool, they will throw all kinds of abuse at your for the low hp.  Just ignore the idiots, you have to start somewhere!</p>
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		<title>By: Warmachine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warmachine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 07:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey man - excellent article. I&#039;m a new tank, hit 80 few days ago, and my goal is to be hitting the hardcore endgame content as soon as possible. So I&#039;m sitting at 20k HP unbuffed, 540 defense, and like 32% cumulative avoidance, can I start running some of the starter heroics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey man &#8211; excellent article. I&#8217;m a new tank, hit 80 few days ago, and my goal is to be hitting the hardcore endgame content as soon as possible. So I&#8217;m sitting at 20k HP unbuffed, 540 defense, and like 32% cumulative avoidance, can I start running some of the starter heroics?</p>
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		<title>By: Grim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah spank these stats still apply.  Other players will say your not ready to tank simply based off your hp, you have to remember most other players are complete retards, which is a shame.

Your stats are more than good enough to start running heroics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah spank these stats still apply.  Other players will say your not ready to tank simply based off your hp, you have to remember most other players are complete retards, which is a shame.</p>
<p>Your stats are more than good enough to start running heroics.</p>
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		<title>By: Spankleshire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spankleshire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 06:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>80 Undead Warrior^^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>80 Undead Warrior^^</p>
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		<title>By: Spankleshire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spankleshire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 06:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sitting at 549 DEF 23k Health and 22k armor and other players are telling me i am not ready to tank heroics do they just not know or has something changed since the posting of this article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sitting at 549 DEF 23k Health and 22k armor and other players are telling me i am not ready to tank heroics do they just not know or has something changed since the posting of this article.</p>
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